coolman5401-nra: How come feminism in today's society has turned into the hatred of men. Is the whole goal of feminism to castrate/kill all men, or to actually help women? Because it looks like its only goal is to humiliate the male gender...
Yes, that’s exactly what’s going on. Radical feminists have hijacked the movement and is now using it to push misandry as a social and political agenda. There are a lot of other feminists who would say “well, that’s not REAL feminism, real feminism is about equality between the sexes”, but if you notice, those other feminists do nothing to reclaim their flag, so in actuality, the other feminists cosign the actions of the radicals.
"I don’t need feminism because I lived for 18 years in a house where my war veteran father was verbally, emotionally and physically abused by my mother, yet he could never call the police or get a divorce because the authorities would side against him because he is a man"
Do you even know how to use a chart?
BTW: Here’s something else that didn’t make it to the first post that kinda substantiates my point. Feel free to look over it.
Men abusing and raping and murdering women? Sorry, but you can’t make a this a unilateral sex issue. Let me show you why:
Women victimize women far more than men do. Also, Women are more likely to be the aggressor in DV incident, and are responsible for nearly half of all DV incidents. Also, women are responsible for the rape and murder of men too. So don’t sit there and act like all women are victims of violence by men.
So by your logic, can I call you a murder and rape apologist because you so arrogantly flew over these little tidbits of fact? Shall I accuse you of Pedophile apology because you failed to mention this?
so yeah, stop acting like women have no value in society, especially given the facts that women are the majority of college students, women are not only paid the same as men in all fields, but some even earn more than men, and women receive more leniency in court issues than men.
Admitting feminism is useless. That’s a good start. Now let’s touch on a few key points.
"Try going to a place (most any place) on the Interwebs and talking about these facts. Talk about male violence against women, rates of rape and domestic violence statistics, and demand that something be done about it."
As a feminist who is supposed to preach equality, you can’t talk about these issues, but ignore the other side of the coins you dropped. Like the fact that women commit more acts of violence against other women than men ever will:
Even in relationships:
Next, let’s touch on rape. The “1 in 4” thing. Yeah, totally B.S. Also, men are more frequently the targets of rape than women will ever be, because more of them are incarcerated. Not only are they targeted by other inmates, but they have to worry about female guards targeting them as well.
On to Domestic Violence. Did you know that women are more often the aggressor in unidirectional DV situations? Did you know that 1 in 3 men are victims of family violence (including non-IPV)? How about the fact that feminists have tried their hardest to distort the facts for their own benefit?
But you want to go to the interwebs to talk about how WOMEN are affected (all the while preaching that feminism fights for equality between the sexes, mind you), then wonder why you are flippantly dismissed. It’s because of your unilateral mindset.
You did say something that is halfway true, though:
"That’s just the way it is. Or there will always be bad people in the world. You can’t stop rape/assault/violence from happening. There will always be ‘people’ who just do bad things."
The Book of Romans even says that there will always be bad people in the world. Romans 5:12:
“Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”
You can’t blame that on MEN though, because as I have showed you, WOMEN have had a generous helping hand in that, and as long as that is true, no amount of prison building, three strikes, affordable housing, or drug rehab will alleviate the problem; feminists are ill equipped to even touch those issues because of their sexist mindset, as displayed by this line:
"What can we do about male crime rates? Nothing. That’s just the way it is."
There’s no way you can ask what we can do about MALE crime rates, but not address FEMALE crime rates as well. Doing so proves pointless.
atrophy-psych: I fuckin' love ya. Well, in a non-romantic sense.
Thank you, that makes Rottie’s entire day! Rottie loves all of his fans…in a non romantic sense, of course!
"President is a man"
Vice President is a woman
Vice president is a woman
With women on their board
"We’ve established the owners are men too."
I don’t care about the owners, This post implicates the marketers.
Cry baby? Ad Hominem much?
"And now you wanna make this a “we” are assigning one gender?"
Yup, because you implicated only men, and I implicated only women. We were both wrong.
What the hell does that have to do with anything?
Again, what the hell does that have to do with Advertising agencies marketing their product to women?
Men benefit off of the system we live in? Are you sure about that? I mean absolutely sure? Because last time I checked, men don’t benefit from too many things that feminism put it’s decrepit fingers into.
"You think the owners and PRESIDENTS don’t have the final say in how their products are marketed? You think they don’t work closely with the teams that develop these advertisements?”
CEOs are men. Vice Presidents are women. Do the math.
"Stop over simplifying things and use some common sense."
The simplest answer is often the correct one.
"Women who are part of those teams have grown up with their own insecurities being exploited for profit."
Yeah I’m sure they went to school for years, got their degrees, put together resumés, and busted down the doors to be a part of a team that exploited their insecurities for profit. Let me guess, that’s all because of the influence of the “patriarchy”?
What does this picture mean to me? You could have pulled it from anywhere and stuck it up here. It’s like showing me an ID without a picture on it.
"If you read my drivel? I havent given you two sentences, in fact, I derailed your entire argument in ONE"
That’s what you Rads are goof for, derailing, not debunking.
"this post wasnt about WOMEN, it was about men and abuse. that is ALL."
And my point was that you rads want to show how men abuse women, but deny the flip side of the coin that women abuse men just as much, if not more. That’s how I mauled your post. I’m going back to my yard now.